Annie Corbett 0:00

Yes. I would say aside from you know, feeling like okay, I'm living more simply - and I like to say, I'm not a minimalist, I'm a specialist, because I have, you know, six pairs of shoes, but I have a silly amount of music toys.

Ethan Waldman 0:16

Welcome to the Tiny House Lifestyle Podcast, the show where you learn how to plan, build and live a tiny lifestyle. I'm your host, Ethan Waldman, and this is episode 239 with Annie Corbett. One of my favorite things to do on this podcast is to speak directly with a real live tiny house dweller and find out kind of what makes them tick, why they decided to go tiny, what they did in the process of designing and building their house to make it unique for them, and how living tiny has been for them. And that's what I do today with my guest, Annie Corbett. I found out about Annie because she released a hilarious music video about well, what goes down in the tiny house loft, which is really fun, and I suggest you watch it. You'll find it linked on the show notes page for this episode. But Annie has just a really sweet tiny house life and I really enjoyed exploring it with her. And I think you'll find a lot of inspiration and wisdom in this conversation. I hope you stick around.

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All right, I am here with Annie Corbett. Known by the artist name Annie Sea is a Portland Oregon based musician who has lived in her tiny home, the Green Dream, since 2017. Her music is featured in the documentary Damned To Extinction, on the 350.org compilation Protect What You Love, and in the film Falling South. She recorded her 2017 release Shadows Insight entirely in her tiny home. She just released a new EP, Aligning, this September. It features Tiny House Loft, a song and video that shows the humorous side of romance in a small space. She is also starting a YouTube channel showcasing everyday tiny house living. Annie Corbett, welcome to the show.

Annie Corbett 3:36

Thanks so much, Ethan. Thanks for having me.

Ethan Waldman 3:42

Yeah, it's great to have you on. So the Tiny House Loft song was kind of my introduction to you. And it's kind of like, it's like, Let's Get It On for the tiny house movement.

Annie Corbett 3:53

Exactly, you know, make conservation sexy. Why not?

Ethan Waldman 3:57

Yeah, yeah. It's a really fun song. And the video is really well put together. So I'll you know, it'll definitely be in the, in the show notes description for this. So so anyone listening can go and check out the video. So, 2017 and now, you know, is five years. That's, that's a pretty long time in in the tiny house movement age. Can you can you talk about how you got interested in tiny house living and you know, kind of what it was like, you know, having a house built and how long that whole process took?

Annie Corbett 4:30

Sure, definitely. So I started thinking about tiny house living probably a few years prior to that 2013, 2014 - ish. And I think that seems like sort of when it kind of hit maybe a more popular mainstream. And I started hearing about that a little bit more. So at the time I was renting rooms in people's homes and being a musician and having kind of an odd schedule and also wanting to you know, create whenever inspiration would strike. I started thinking about, you know, I would love to have a more detached space. I started thinking about possibly van life or RV life. And I ultimately started pursuing tiny house living more seriously because I'm kind of a wuss when it comes to the cold and I wanted actual house insulation.

Ethan Waldman 5:24

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 5:24

And so about, I would say, a year before I found the house I'm living in, I started the process of I know, you've talked about sort of the tiny home decisions. And I started talking with people who had built their homes. I started looking at online used tiny home listings. And I talked to builders. I had a friend of mine who has an architect background, and my friend Emily accompany me to some of the visits to the builders. And I ultimately decided to work with builders, because I wanted something that was built to code. The people I knew, and the stories that I heard from people who have built their own homes, it seemed like it always took a lot longer than they expected. And, and I really, I've built, I built a bed frame once and I build the couch that I have, but I don't have a lot of building experience. So that seemed like the right fit for me. And I ended up finding some builders who are pretty local, based out of Salem, and we basically modified kind of one of their basic plans, essentially.

Ethan Waldman 6:38

Nice.

Annie Corbett 6:39

So, yeah.

Ethan Waldman 6:41

Well, in your in your Tiny Home Tours video, it really looks like you've done some customization that you've talked about, like building out the couch storage to specifically fit different pieces of musical equipment. Can you talk a little bit about about those modifications and those things that you've done since moving in?

Annie Corbett 7:00

Sure. Yes, and I think this brings up a good point that when I was starting to look at different homes, tiny houses, I saw several models that had sort of custom, you know, furniture built in, and I found for me, I like to have a little bit more space to kind of do yoga and stretch. And I found that the homes that sort of built out from the side, those felt really cramped to me. So I knew that I wanted sort of a basic kind of shell, you know, and not a shell completely. But I didn't want anything built in, I wanted to live in it for a time and figure out what I wanted. And so when the pandemic hit, and I was spending a lot more time in my house, I you know, I previously just kind of had my music equipment out kind of loose at the end of the house. But it was at that time that I decided, okay, I want to have, I basically have these three sort of table shelves, and you can see it in the video.

Ethan Waldman 7:59

Okay.

Annie Corbett 7:59

And then on top of that, I put a little mattress, so it sort of functions as a couch. But I measured you know, I measured the width of my speakers and my, my loop pedal to, to sort of figure out how big each of the little subdivision tables would be. And then I tried to make the height, a good height where I could sort of get on and get off the couch relatively easily.

Ethan Waldman 8:27

Well, it's, it's, it's great. Definitely like in your tour, and I don't mean this as an insult at all, it looks lived in like it's, it's refreshing, because it's not like a tiny house that's, you know, brand new that's just been delivered that maybe nobody lives in yet. You know, it's clear that you live there, and you've made the modifications that you need to kind of make it work.

Annie Corbett 8:53

Right, exactly. And that's what I wanted to show. And that's what I'm starting to show on my my YouTube channel for The Green Dream as well as sort of the everyday tiny house living. Because when I was researching tiny homes, I saw a lot of tours that, as you said, looked like, oh, this this house was just delivered or it's a model and I wanted to see, well what is it actually like to live in it? What is it like to cook in it? And how do you figure out where your things go? So that's what, that's what I'm trying to show a little bit more in that space. And so yeah, I'm glad that, that you noticed that.

Ethan Waldman 9:27

Yeah. And I actually, it's an interesting point, you know, the conventional wisdom, I think, is to go with the built ins because it saves it can save a little space. It's just a little bit more efficient. But I think that your house is probably much more adaptable. You know, those built ins are pretty hard to change, especially if you don't put flooring under them. If you're like I'm building the couch in here and I'm gonna save space on the floors by not putting in hardwood flooring underneath.

Annie Corbett 9:54

Right.

Ethan Waldman 9:55

You know, that's that's hard to change down the line.

Annie Corbett 9:57

Exactly. I like that, that customization, you know. I can, I can pull my music gear out and, and play with it in the middle of the room, I can stretch, I can do yoga. And I know some of the homes that I saw you really was hard to to have that sort of space that is adaptable in that way for different different activities, though.

Ethan Waldman 10:19

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's fantastic. You know, you mentioned in the tour, you know that there are some things that you change about the house, would you mind kind of sharing those here and elaborating on those?

Annie Corbett 10:33

Sure. That was sort of a hard question to answer. Because I do feel, I feel pretty good about the size. I feel good that I didn't get different, you know, something that was more complicated or had more built ins. The one thing that I did mention in the video is I am in the Pacific Northwest and be a bit gray and the spot that I'm in actually have some really nice shade for the summer. But it is, I'm in a cedar house. And so, you know, it's got a bit more of a cabin feel. And so it can feel like there are times that I want a little more light. And those are when I do watch other people's tiny home tours who have built in skylights. I do think about that at times, but I know that that would involve kind of losing some of that roof insulation and making it a bit colder. But there are times I would like a bit more light. That was what I mentioned in that tour.

Ethan Waldman 11:25

Yeah, definitely. I, I also struggled with that decision to put a skylight in or not. And ultimately, I also decided not to put in the skylight for those kind of similar longevity reasons of like, being nervous that it would leak over time.

Annie Corbett 11:40

Right. Right. Yeah, other than that, there's not a lot I can, I can think that I would change it really feels like it fits my lifestyle pretty well.

Ethan Waldman 11:51

Yeah. So what has it been, like, kind of adapting to being a musician and making music in the tiny house?

Annie Corbett 12:00

Yes, I would say aside from you know, feeling like okay, I'm living more simply. And I like to say, I'm not a minimalist, I'm a specialist, because I have, you know, six pairs of shoes, but I have a silly amount of music toys.

Ethan Waldman 12:15

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 12:16

So aside from living more simply and living lighter on the land, that's been one of my favorite things about living in the tiny home is that and where I have it, I'm not very close to the main house or any of the neighbors. And so there have been times I've practiced that 11 At night, you know, have a gig coming up. And I'll practice, I'll write at night. Like I said, being able to move things around. And I've recorded in here, as you mentioned, I forgot that I put that on my bio, but my, my 2017 release. I recorded almost entirely in the tiny house and and it was mixed here as well.

Ethan Waldman 12:53

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 12:53

So we brought in, you know, a drummer setup. His, my drummer setup is hand drums in here. And so that's been super fun. And we've even had, you know, band rehearsals in here. I've gotten six people in here. And we call it the CRAM jam. So. So it's been, you know, it's fun. Definitely a blessing to have that space. I know that that's a challenge for a lot of musicians. And yeah.

Ethan Waldman 13:16

Yeah, definitely. You, you live in your practice space.

Annie Corbett 13:19

Right, exactly. I have my instruments on my wall. I can see some behind you as well.

Ethan Waldman 13:25

Yes, yes. Yeah, a few few stringed instruments back there as well. I liked in your tour that you mentioned. Like, when you were preparing for the tiny house, that you you know, you were willing to give a lot of things away, but like never any musical gear and I, I personally feel the same. Like I refuse to get rid of any musical instruments, like ever. So they follow me around.

Annie Corbett 13:47

Exactly. You can hang them on the wall.

Ethan Waldman 13:49

Yep.

Annie Corbett 13:49

You can, you know, you can find places for them. Mm hmm.

Ethan Waldman 13:52

Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. Did you have to bring in more equipment, you know, to record that album? Or were you just able to, you know, use your computer and just what you have locally in the house?

Annie Corbett 14:04

I think that I did, I think I basically used everything here. I had gotten a pretty good mic - vocal microphone. I think there was anything I brought in. No, it was basically all what I had. And in this space, with the exception of one, there's one drummer on one song who was up in Seattle and so yeah, him there, but everything else was here. So yeah.

Ethan Waldman 14:29

Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, what you can do now with just like a Mac laptop and a few microphones.

Annie Corbett 14:37

Right. Logic, and a few microphones and

Ethan Waldman 14:40

Yep, yep. Are you are you a Logic person?

Annie Corbett 14:43

I am now. I used GarageBand for quite a while and then got into Logic and Logic is just sort of the next step from GarageBand.

Ethan Waldman 14:51

Yep.

Annie Corbett 14:52

And I find it it's very intuitive and then I started getting a little bit into the video editing to do some of the the tiny home videos and Final Cut is also sort of like related, it seems, to Logic and GarageBand. So those are all sort of in the same intuitive family. So...

Ethan Waldman 15:09

Yeah, yeah.

Annie Corbett 15:09

We'll plug some of those, too, if they want to sponsor us.

Ethan Waldman 15:12

Yeah. Apple, please come sponsor me, sponsor Annie. Like we would love to take your money. Because we know we know we've given you plenty.

Annie Corbett 15:21

Yeah, exactly.

Ethan Waldman 15:24

Yeah. So what has your experience been parking the tiny home? Have you had a lot of different parking spots? Or, you know, tell that story?

Annie Corbett 15:33

Yeah. Yes. So I've been in one location for the five years. And we were just mentioning that I will be moving in a couple of weeks. My partner and I have lived on opposite sides of town. And so we have some friends with a little bit more space a little bit east of here. And so we're rolling the tiny house over, and we're gonna have space in the house, which is great, because he's also a musician. So I will get to see what that adventure is like, in a couple of weeks.

Ethan Waldman 16:04

Wow.

Annie Corbett 16:05

But I haven't moved it.

Ethan Waldman 16:07

Yeah. And that's, I mean, how lucky to have been able to live in your house for, for that many years. And also, you know, you're you're not moving in under duress, like you haven't had a falling out with your landlord, or like the city hasn't come knocking. You're just moving because you want to move.

Annie Corbett 16:24

Exactly. It's a very, it's one of the probably the happiest move I'll be making.

Ethan Waldman 16:29

Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a very happy move.

Annie Corbett 16:32

Yeah. And to find my spot, that is actually kind of an interesting part of the story. So please, I know, you've talked about, and this is still the case in a lot of areas where people told me in Portland, that it was "pre legal" at the time that I moved in. That it wasn't, it wasn't technically illegal, but there just weren't laws saying, "Yes, you can do this." And so that was I think that was my biggest concern moving into a tiny house.

Ethan Waldman 17:02

Okay.

Annie Corbett 17:03

So I would say a few months, six months or so before I decided on the house that I'm in, I posted a Craigslist ad just saying, this is you know, about me, and the dimensions of, the likely dimensions of the house. And just seeing if people had space for it. And I was, I got a lot of what I, I was surprised by how many responses I got. I was getting probably three to four a week.

Ethan Waldman 17:31

Wow.

Annie Corbett 17:32

And so through that process, I met my, my land mate, landlord.

Ethan Waldman 17:38

Land mates. I like that.

Annie Corbett 17:40

And I'm just behind the main house. So that was another thing I really liked about this location is that it's very stealth. It's not visible from the road, not out in a driveway or anything like that.

Ethan Waldman 17:51

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 17:52

And the neighbors around me, I'm basically facing their yards. So I'm also not very close to their homes. So I haven't had any problems with that. And I knew I'm really lucky in that in that way. And since then, it is now it is now legal, technically legal to be in an RV or a tiny house in Portland.

Ethan Waldman 18:15

So yeah, it's, it's awesome. And yeah, I don't know the episode number off the top of my head, but I will put it in the show notes. If anyone's interested in hearing about the Portland laws. I had someone on who is very knowledgeable about that.

Annie Corbett 18:28

Oh, cool.

Ethan Waldman 18:29

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 18:30

I'll check that out.

Ethan Waldman 18:32

So what are you doing, so your house has been in place for five years. What are you doing to prepare for the move?

Annie Corbett 18:38

Yes. So since I haven't moved, I'm sort of trying to feel out what I should do. I talked to the tiny house mover who said that I can keep things in my house. So my plan is to move. I have a storage loft. I have a sleeping loft, and a storage loft. And I'm planning to take things out of the storage loft.

Ethan Waldman 19:03

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 19:03

I'll probably move a few things ahead of time to the main house. I'll definitely take my music gear out.

Ethan Waldman 19:10

Yep.

Annie Corbett 19:11

But other than that, I don't have a lot of very breakable things. I think it's going to be a lot of - oh, and the dishes. I'll take the dishes out there. I'm going to be duct taping drawers and cabinet.

Ethan Waldman 19:24

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 19:26

But yeah, it doesn't feel you know, it's sort of like having your own moving truck in a way.

Ethan Waldman 19:32

Yeah, well, yeah. So for my recent move, I forgot to take the globe off of the ceiling fan, the like glass globe that covers the light bulb, and that fell off during the move and just shattered everywhere. But I actually took like, all of the dishes and stuff. I just had a couple of like those plastic, you know, totes and I just kind of layered the dishes with like either clothes or like clean dish towels and other things and just put those right on the floor of the tiny house. And that's kind of all you need. I also I see some pictures behind you. I would take those off the wall too.

Annie Corbett 20:08

Yeah,

Ethan Waldman 20:09

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 20:09

Pictures. But it doesn't feel like, it feels strange. Because if it feels weird to move and not have all these boxes, or have the, you know, and a scramble to really pack things in that conventional way.

Ethan Waldman 20:25

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 20:25

But more about, like you said, strategizing, what you're going to move and, and what to kind of protect.

Ethan Waldman 20:32

Definitely, it's not something that most people have to think about, like, you know, if you if you are living van life, or skoolie life, like, you're probably used to moving it more often. And then if you're in a stationary house, you you move, but you have to pack everything in boxes. So it's it's rare to have like a house that's built, like a, like a single family home, but also have it move.

Annie Corbett 20:56

Right, right. On on the road.

Ethan Waldman 21:00

Going on the road. So I'm curious, like when you when you were kind of dreaming and then building your tiny house, did you think of it like 'this is going to be my forever thing'? Or were you like, "Okay, I'm gonna do this for for three years and then reevaluate." Like, what was your thought process there?

Annie Corbett 21:20

Yeah, that's a great question. I know that at the time, I think at the time, it was more about Gosh, I really would love this, to have a situation where I, like I said, I can just create at any time, and I'm sort of detached from having to worry about making noise with other people around. And at the time, I remember talking with people, you know, what if, at that time, I hadn't met my partner and all of this. And so my vision was really kind of what I'll be moving into, which is if I meet someone, and we find a place together, that can be part of it, you know, that can be a studio in the backyard, or that I envisioned keeping the house with me in some capacity. And I think being a musician, you know, we could turn it into a little studio, and that would be sort of a novel, fun thing, potentially. And I, it's, I guess it sounds sort of weird. I don't know if other people... I imagine if you've built your own house, you feel very attached. But when I did get the house I yeah, I feel very attached to it. But yeah, maybe at some point, I would, you know, sell it. But yeah, it almost feels like a pet in a certain way that I want to keep it with me in some capacity.

Ethan Waldman 22:29

Yeah. Tell, tell us about the name The Green Dream.

Annie Corbett 22:34

Oh, sure. So it's green on the outside.

Ethan Waldman 22:38

Okay.

Annie Corbett 22:38

And I don't know when I came up with that. I mean, it rhymes. In my videos, I have a little goofy jingle.

Ethan Waldman 22:45

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 22:47

And I don't know, it just seemed like fit.

Ethan Waldman 22:51

It does fit. I like it. Well, you also talked about your, you know, wanting to live more lightly on on the earth. So there's like the green, green living.

Annie Corbett 22:59

Right. Exactly. Exactly. Green living, the green color.

Ethan Waldman 23:05

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 23:05

And that it had done it had been a dream for a few years at that point. And so yeah, kind of actualizing that.

Ethan Waldman 23:14

Yeah, that's really awesome. And so you're, you're starting to do, have you started it yet? Or are you going to start doing like a YouTube channel sharing your your day to day life?

Annie Corbett 23:25

Yes. So I just posted the videos, the tour on the Tiny Home Tours came out.

Ethan Waldman 23:32

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 23:33

And that was my plan, to sort of, when that came out, I would post the videos. I was kind of waiting to do the jingle. And they sort of surprised me posting the video. And so I just that day, just okay, I'm going to Lo Fi it. But so I just posted a few videos. And I have a couple more in the pipeline. And I think there's going to be several about the move, like you said kind of preparing. And then what is the actual move going to be like, the the location that I'm in, when we when they delivered the house, they had to sort of Jackknife it back here if that makes sense. So I think the extraction will be interesting.

Ethan Waldman 24:11

Okay.

Annie Corbett 24:11

The and, yeah, so I'm planning to share that adventure if people want to check it out.

Ethan Waldman 24:22

Nice and have you have you hired professional movers? Are you doing it yourself?

Annie Corbett 24:30

I have hired a professional mover for that reason, because I knew, yeah, it would be challenging for just anyone with a truck to get it out of the location. But I I definitely want to really observe everything that they do so that I'm more self sufficient with that in the future. But I think for this move since it's been a while, you know, haven't moved at all and it's a tricky location that wanted to go with a pro.

Ethan Waldman 24:59

Yeah, yeah.

Annie Corbett 25:02

Yeah.

Ethan Waldman 25:03

I think that's that's a good that's a good way to do it. I I've never moved mine myself really either because I just, I think it's worth it to hire somebody with the right equipment and expertise.

Annie Corbett 25:15

Right. Right. Has it was it nerve wracking when you, the first time you moved your house?

Ethan Waldman 25:21

Oh, it's always nerve wracking seeing it roll. It's crazy. But it, you know, for the person towing it, it's just towing another thing, you know, it's not it's not that big of a deal. But, but to you and me, it's like, it's our house.

Annie Corbett 25:39

Right? Exactly.

Ethan Waldman 25:40

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 25:40

I had a friend come. I mean, since it's been here for five years, I was you know, making sure Okay, I gotta make sure the Oh, that was that's another thing I did. I made sure the tires were out a certain psi.

Ethan Waldman 25:52

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 25:52

I think it was 65. And then I had a friend come over so we could test the lights.

Ethan Waldman 25:57

Yeah.

Annie Corbett 25:58

So it has the signal lights. And, and he was saying that you could have a, I think he said a forklift, basically a forklift and move your house. And those are very maneuverable. So I'd never thought about that.

Ethan Waldman 26:11

Yes, that is true.

Annie Corbett 26:13

So maybe in the future, it'll be fun to see...

Ethan Waldman 26:15

Yeah. I actually, my house stayed in the same spot for a long time before it moved. And the wheels had kind of sunken into the ground a bit. And we

Annie Corbett 26:24

Yeah,

Ethan Waldman 26:25

there was a tractor on the property that and that was what we used to pull it out. Because it was

Annie Corbett 26:30

Oh, wow.

Ethan Waldman 26:31

was slightly stuck. But tractor, tractors also very maneuverable for towing a tiny house.

Annie Corbett 26:37

Cool.

Ethan Waldman 26:38

Yeah. Yeah.

Annie Corbett 26:39

Good to know.

Ethan Waldman 26:41

Um, so how, you know, how often do you perform and play out? And like, are you able to store all your, like, live gear with you in the tiny house?

Annie Corbett 26:50

Yes. So I would say I perform, every month or so. I kind of go through waves, I'm just, you know, finishing this, this EP that I just released, called Aligning, in September, and I'm gonna have a video coming out the end of October. And so I would say play about every month or so, publicly.

Ethan Waldman 27:11

Okay.

Annie Corbett 27:12

I have toured in the past, not since the pandemic and kind of feeling that out what I want to do there. But I do play regularly in assisted living and eldercare facilities, nice two to three times a week. So I have, you know, I have my PA set up. And I usually bring bring one of those speakers. So I have all my gear very accessible. It before I had the couch, some of it was in the storage loft, and I would have to bring things up and down. So it's nice to have everything everything out. But yeah, all the music gear is in here.

Ethan Waldman 27:48

Definitely. Yeah. And that's, it's just so cool. Because, you know, you think of somebody who is a musician, and you think about all their gear and you're like, "Well, they probably couldn't live in a tiny house. Right?" They really can.

Annie Corbett 28:00

Right? That's why I say specialists, you think about it, what do I what do I want to keep with me? And I think the biggest thing that I got, I never had a lot of clothes. I think in other areas of my life, I am a little bit more of a natural minimalist, but yeah, I did throughout different moves. In my adult life. I love shedding books, you know, I used to keep all books with me and and then I realized, you know, there, there might be a couple of books that I would like to keep, but I would rather read something and pass it along. So yeah, I just have a few books up. And my sleeping loft and and the rest kind of cycle through you know, and there's libraries and yeah, so I think it's, a lot of it's about you know, if there are you know, if you're an artist or there's something that is important to you and and you want to build your space around that and then keep everything else as simple as possible. I think it's very, very doable.

Ethan Waldman 29:00

Yeah, yeah. You have any, any like renovations or changes or things that you're kind of looking looking ahead to in the tiny house?

Annie Corbett 29:11

Yeah, it's interesting that you mentioned the ceiling fan because I do have wiring for a ceiling fan that I've never put in and it would be nice to have that. I have a little, right now I have a little fan at the one of the small back windows and that's kind of what I use for the sort of, you know, ventilation and air movement. But it would be nice, a ceiling fan. What else have I thought about? A little slightly more permanent deck. In the, in the tour video. I have this. It was a little cheap kind of canvas thing that I put on. It's slightly crooked.

What else? Renovations... I think that's another place where I'm sort of a little bit more of a minimalist that has been I just kind of wanted my little box. Nnothing too complicated. There's this drawer that always opens that I'm kind of taping shut, but nothing major.

Ethan Waldman 30:05

Nothing major? Okay.

Annie Corbett 30:07

Yeah.

Ethan Waldman 30:09

Ceiling fan, drawer repair.

Annie Corbett 30:10

Cieling fan, drawers... I don't know. I think that's it.

Ethan Waldman 30:16

Nice. Nice. Well, one thing that I like to ask all my guests is, you know, what are what are two or three resources that maybe helped you out on on your tiny house journey or just things that inspire you in general, and that you want to share with the listeners?

Annie Corbett 30:32

Sure, you know, since it's been a little while, I'm trying to remember the particular... I remember that my my friend and I, my friend who helped, went accompany me to the visit with the builders, I am sure we watched one of those reality shows that had that featured tiny homes. I don't remember which one it was. But I remember, we we sort of binge watched a few episodes of that show. I know that I went on YouTube a lot. And I was

Ethan Waldman 31:02

Yeah,

Annie Corbett 31:03

especially when I wasn't sure about, do I get a van, RV, tiny house? And so I watched a ton of different videos of people in those situations. And this was before I was really on Instagram a lot, but definitely a lot of YouTube, just YouTube, random, random shuffle, and looking at different places. And then, and then, like I said, just going out. I think being in Portland, I was fortunate to have access to you know, I knew different people or friends of friends who had built homes. There's a spot up here, Green Anchors, where there's a lot of building going on. So just visiting homes, I looked at some Tumbleweed houses. So yeah, just physically getting a physical sense for a lot of different tiny homes was was very helpful. I got to really see, you know, I think I saw a huge shell that was a 16 foot tiny house and I realized that is way too small, not going that tiny, you know, or seeing places. The big thing for me was and I'm not that tall, but I I went to several tiny homes where I could barely sit in the loft, and that didn't feel great. So the builders that I worked with, they actually build their own trailers a bit lower to the ground, so they have a little more height in the loft.

Ethan Waldman 32:31

Okay.

Annie Corbett 32:32

And that was a that was a big deciding factor for me. Yeah, just it's sort of like trying on trying on clothes. You know, what was it and maybe the the legs too long or the sleeves are too short.

Ethan Waldman 32:45

Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Well, that's, that's great advice. Annie Corbett, thanks so much for being a guest on the show today.

Annie Corbett 32:52

Yeah, you're welcome. Thanks, Ethan. And thanks for having me.

Ethan Waldman 32:54

Thank you so much to Annie Corbett for being a guest on the show today. You can find the show notes, including a complete transcript, photos of Annie's house, and some of her music including that hilarious Tiny House Loft music video over at thetinyhouse.net/239. Again, that's thetinyhouse.net/239. Well, that's all for this week. I'm your host, Ethan Waldman, and I'll be back next week with another episode of the Tiny House Lifestyle Podcast.

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